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【Nothingness】A Thread to Seriously Discuss the World After Death
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What People See Right Before Death is Revealed
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【Another World?】There was a Person Called “River Person” When I Was a Child.
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I Ended Up in a Strange Place After Taking the Train
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Thinking about getting into this “Tulpa” (Artificial Spirit) thing…
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Experienced a Strange World While Meditating: ‘Dream of Being Protected by Forest Dwellers’
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Memories After Death and Past Life Memories
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I’m a Master of “Lucid Dreaming” (Freely Controlling Dreams) – Here’s How I Do It
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A Story About Catching a Glimpse of What Seems to Be the Mechanism of the Past, Present, Future, and the Universe
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【Reincarnation】Is there really an afterlife or a next life?
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I work as a yokai exterminator, ask me anything? Part 3
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I work as a yokai exterminator, ask me anything? Part 2
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[Eternal Nothingness] Anyone else scared of the afterlife being nothing?
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How to Trigger Sleep Paralysis
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Do people who commit suicide go to hell?
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Life Takes 8 Cycles to Complete
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I was reincarnated from a different world, any questions?
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I Think I Probably Came From Another World
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I work as a yokai exterminator, ask me anything?
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[Another World] My Story of Getting Lost in a Strange World Where Everything was Orange
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I remember the afterlife, any questions?
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Imaginary Friends Are Too Awesome…
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I work as a yokai exterminator, ask me anything? Part 4
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Amazing Discovery After Keeping a Dream Diary

[1] I doubt anyone will believe me, so I’d appreciate it if you just treat this as a piece of fiction. First off, the method I used to communicate was channeling (what they call spirit channeling or ‘kuchiyose no jutsu’ in Japan). I just happened to stumble upon the word while randomly searching online, and it sounded interesting, so I thought I’d give it a try. However, the more I looked into it, the shadier it seemed, and I didn’t really like it much. So, I kind of made up my own method and spent about seven months just randomly trying to contact aliens. It was similar to the ‘rolling’ technique mentioned on astral projection forums.
- [7] Hurry up. Hurry up.
[9] Around the seventh month, when my eyes were half-closed and I was about to doze off, I felt a floating sensation from my butt up to my chest. At that moment, I thought I had succeeded in astral projection. By then, I was already bored with channeling and more interested in astral projection. But it felt different from the astral projection stories I often heard. First, even when the floating sensation spread throughout my body, I didn’t feel like I had actually ‘left’ it. No matter how much I ‘rolled,’ nothing changed. Then, the view of my room started to change gradually. The walls of the room began whizzing by, like looking out a train window. At first, I thought it was a lucid dream, but when the walls disappeared and I entered a space filled only with colors like jumbled-up paint, a sudden wave of fear washed over me.
- [232] >>9 I had a dream with those colors a long time ago, is it dangerous?
[11] “No way! I wanna wake up now!” I screamed and cried like crazy. Then I felt a pulling sensation. But I couldn’t tell if I was being pulled forward, backward, left, right, up, or down. I was so scared I honestly thought I was going to pee like three gallons. I started flailing my arms and legs, trying to distract myself by singing the chorus of Dragon Ash’s ‘Fantasista’. I was being pulled faster and faster towards something, and when I suddenly realized, I was in a space that was completely white, or rather, enveloped in light. The pulling and floating sensations were gone. There were lots of bubble-like things there, and just as I said, “What are these?” and reached out to touch one, someone stopped me in Japanese, shouting, “Don’t touch that!” I turned around startled, and an old man was approaching me, looking angry.

[12] The old man was a white guy who looked like Michael Moore, wearing an Aloha shirt, shorts, and flip-flops. But just being able to talk to someone felt so moving, or rather, like a relief, that I just said something like “Ah, phew,” sat down on the spot, and burst into tears. The old man sat down next to me and asked, “How did you get here?” I explained, “I was playing around with something called astral projection, and things got weird,” mixing in how I did it and what happened. Suddenly, his face turned anxious, and he started rattling off, “You think this is a dream?! Don’t do such dangerous things!”
- [13] Watching you. From behind.
[14] “Well, I know it’s a lucid dream, but I don’t know how to wake up,” I said. The old man angrily retorted, “I told you it’s not a dream!” As I started to calm down, I began thinking I should enjoy the lucid dream, so I teasingly said, “Then prove it’s not a dream. Do something.” The old man thought for a bit and said, “That’s difficult.” When I pressed him, “Isn’t there any way to prove it?” he grabbed my arm and said, “Alright, let’s go near Earth for a bit.” Immediately, I was being pulled through the jumbled-paint-like space by the old man.
[15] I felt sick and kept my eyes closed, but he said, “We’re here.” I opened my eyes, and it was still the jumbled paint space. The old man pointed, and there was a globe, about the size of a volleyball. “It’s just a model,” I said. The old man replied, “Your house? Your room? Where is it? We’re going there now, so picture it in your head.” As I imagined my room, the globe started getting bigger and closer. “Hieeee!” I shrieked and tried to run, but the old man caught me, and finally, I was swallowed by the globe.
- [16] Watching you.
[17] I found myself back in my room. But when I looked up at the sky through the window, it was the paint-like space. “Have you lost anything recently?” the old man asked. I remembered I’d lost my headphones and told him. “Okay, picture those in your head,” he said. As I imagined them, I felt a strong pull, and suddenly I was in my friend A’s room. Only the old man and I were there. Something under the TV stand in the room was glowing. “I’m sending you back now. When you get back, go get your headphones from the glowing spot in this person’s house,” he said quickly, adding, “And don’t you ever ascend again,” and “If you can, forget about this. I know it’ll be hard, but try not to remember it too much.” Just as the old man was about to do something to send me back, I asked one last question: “Who exactly are you?” He chuckled softly and said, “We live in different dimensions, but I’m an alien.” I felt the floating sensation from my butt to my chest again, and immediately after, I woke up.

- [18] Hmm.
[19] A few days later, I asked A if I could look under their TV stand, and sure enough, my headphones were there. Because of that, I started feeling like the whole experience might have been real, and I wanted to go back there again, so I started trying every night. About a week into trying, I suddenly found myself floating in the paint-like space again. I didn’t feel the same fear as last time, but there was no pulling sensation either. I just wandered aimlessly through the paint space. Looking closely, I saw Earth right behind me, and also what looked like Mars and Venus, also about the size of volleyballs. There were other volleyball-sized celestial bodies floating around too. However, I thought the positions probably didn’t replicate the actual layout of space. As I floated around thinking, “This is interesting,” I spotted a group of three old men chatting around one of the celestial bodies. All of them were Michael Moore. When I called out, “Hello!” the three men looked incredibly surprised and started talking frantically, saying things like, “No way,” “Why is an Aquahho (?) here?” and “Isn’t this bad?”
[20] “Is it bad if I’m here? (lol)” “Well, it’s probably not beneficial for either of us…” was the gist of our exchange. Anyway, I decided to ask the questions I had. First, I asked who the Michael Moores were. They countered, “Who are you?” I said, “I’m an Earthling.” That didn’t seem to ring a bell, so I guided them to the Earth globe and pointed. They said, “Oh, so you’re not Aquahho (sounded something like that)?” I asked, “What’s that?” They pointed to Mars and said, “The creatures that lived here.” Suppressing my surprise that there had been life on Mars, I asked again who they were. “You and us exist under different rules – distance, size, time, things like that – but we’re both aliens in the same universe,” one said, then pointed to the celestial body the three of them had been gathered around earlier. “You haven’t found it on Earth yet, too bad.”
- [21] If this is true, it’s amazing. Please continue soon.
[22] When I asked why we could understand each other, they explained that there’s a mechanism where we each perceive the other communicating in a way that’s familiar to us. Apparently, our appearances work the same way. Because I somehow felt familiarity or something with Michael Moore, they appeared as Michael Moore to me. I asked what this space was. They explained it’s a universe that exists ‘above’ the rules of distance and time, describing it as “like a warp drive for you guys.” I also asked if it was difficult to find their planet from Earth. “How do you guys observe celestial bodies?” one asked. As I started to imagine a telescope to explain its mechanism, he cut me off, “Ah, I see, got it. As long as you’re looking by magnifying things with lenses and such, we probably won’t be able to find each other.” Then he asked, “Ancient Earthlings used a different method to observe celestial bodies. Why are you using this method now?” I didn’t know what he meant at the time, so I just said, “I don’t know.”
[24] Next, I asked about Mars. Let’s call the three old men A, B, and C for convenience. Old man B (who looked like Michael Moore in a suit) answered. Old man C (wearing a Jinbei for some reason) said, “Maybe we shouldn’t talk too much about that.” To summarize briefly, there was definitely life on Mars existing in the same dimension and under the same rules as Earth, and apparently, there were quite a variety of life forms. Among them, of course, were what Earthlings would call intelligent life. Back then, the only other places in the solar system with life were the Sun and Earth.
Jinbei: A traditional Japanese summer homewear, usually consisting of a top and short trousers.
- [25] Reminds me of Carl Sagan’s Contact. Amazing if true.
[27] Apparently, the beings that lived on the Sun are still there. The old men took me to the Sun. They pointed to a green sphere, also about the size of a volleyball. I hadn’t recognized it as the Sun earlier, but it was near Earth. “It’s not burning,” I remarked. “Only the surface is burning, or rather, what you perceive as the surface,” they explained. The Sun is a special star, apparently a combination of multiple dimensions and rules. As I stared at the Sun for a while, someone started coming out from within it towards us. It was Toshiaki Karasawa, and he greeted me very casually, “Yo.” The Michael Moores explained, “The Sun beings can also move via ascension,” but I didn’t understand a single bit of it.
- [28] Caught up. This is pretty interesting reading. Curious about what’s next.
[29] Toshiaki Karasawa communicated with the Michael Moores for a bit, then turned to me and said, “You’re from Earth, right? Your place is unusual, interesting.” Then he and the Michael Moores got excited, saying things like, “So, not Aquahho.” When I asked, “What’s Aquahho?” Toshiaki Karasawa answered, “The most advanced beings on Mars.” I was extremely interested and asked for details. First, there was life on Earth, but back when Mars was thriving, it was only microscopic. Earth at that time was covered in liquid. The Martians often explored Earth for life, but they only found microscopic organisms and the predecessors of insects. (Note: Corrected from the original text which used a homophone meaning “advance” instead of “predecessor”) When I mentioned the theory of evolution, they burst out laughing incredibly loudly.
- [30] You’re gonna get erased…
[31] After a while, various life forms appeared on Earth. I thought it was about the Cambrian explosion, but according to Toshiaki Karasawa, that was the period when the Aquahho intervened most heavily. He also told me to stop thinking about ridiculous ideas like evolution that only considered Earth itself. However, the Michael Moores then said to Toshiaki Karasawa, “Maybe you guys should stop living only within the dimensions gathered on the Sun too.”
[32] Aquahho are life forms closest to what Earthlings call mammals, apparently. Or rather, they seeded the origins of creatures that would later become mammals and reptiles on Earth. They intended for Earth’s evolution to follow a path somewhat similar to Mars’.
[33] So, I asked Toshiaki Karasawa how life originated on Mars. He chuckled slightly and said, “We split off and settled there.” I realized I hadn’t seen the Moon and was looking for it when Michael Moore B told me something like, “Such foreign objects aren’t reflected here.” When I asked for details, he said the Moon is, in Earth terms, an artificial object, apparently used by the Aquahho when they formatted Earth. After a while, some Aquahho factions on Mars started something like a war, so many Aquahho temporarily fled to Earth. Earth at that time already had its own atmosphere and viruses developing, so it wasn’t very hospitable for the Aquahho.
[35] Back on Mars, they apparently kept blasting the surface with nuclear weapons (though the mechanism differs from Earth’s nukes; it’s Sun technology). This ruined Mars, so they temporarily called a truce to figure out how to restore it. Then, the Aquahho who had fled to Earth reported, “Hey, there are life forms on Earth following a life process similar to ours!” They started analyzing the DNA of creatures like the mouse-like ancestors of monkeys, dinosaurs, and aquatic life.
- [36] TV said Mars’ ozone layer was destroyed, something got in, water broke down, hydrogen escaped into space, oxygen oxidized the soil, turning Mars red.
[37] The Aquahho decided to create seeds of life by combining the DNA of these creatures with their own Aquahho DNA and let them develop on Earth for the time being. They figured that since these beings carried Aquahho DNA, they would develop intelligence and a sense of belonging to Mars, and could then be used as a labor force for terraforming Mars. As he finished this part, Toshiaki Karasawa and Michael Moore started arguing, or something like it. I think they were saying things like, “It was for war purposes from the start,” and “It was created accidentally.”
[38] After some time, humanity was born, but there were apparently about four types. One type was incredibly tall, over 2.5 meters (about 8’2″), with lizard-like faces; these were supposedly the closest to the Aquahho. Then there were two types of humans where the traits of monkey ancestors were strongly expressed. And finally, a type that looked just like bipedal apes; imagine Lucy, the ancestor of humans displayed in places like the Ueno museum. These four types emerged. Each of the four types was created by different Aquahho factions. Lucy.

- [128] >>38 >incredibly tall, over 2.5 meters, lizard-like faces Sounds like the ones from Tezuka Osamu’s Norman.
[39] The giants were quickly taken under the protection of the Aquahho and headed to Mars with them to support the planet’s restoration. But those Aquahho apparently had a change of heart or something and went off to another planet instead. Next, the type that just walked on two legs like apes didn’t evolve much intellectually and apparently just prospered as apes. Chimpanzees are the most similar, but they weren’t chimpanzees, and this type went extinct. When I asked if those bipedal apes weren’t our ancestors, Moore A (also in a suit, but brown) laughed and said, “I guess you can’t help believing that since it’s what you’ve been taught, but didn’t you ever think it was a bit far-fetched?”
[40] Seriously should have written this down beforehand. My eyes are getting tired.
- [41] That’s amazing.
- [42] Very interesting.
[43] Sorry, let me take a quick break. I’ll grab something to eat.
- [44] (Commenting to keep the thread alive.) Interesting. But feels like it won’t finish today.
[45] When I said, “I thought so because humans resemble apes,” Moore replied, “From my perspective, both apes and humans just look like subspecies of Aquahho.” In the end, the two types of humans with strong monkey ancestor traits remained on Earth. After a while, these two types of humans developed to a certain extent and were able to form some level of civilization. Until this time, the Aquahho had continued living in the sky, but from around this period, they began descending to the surface more often.
- [47] Interesting.
[48] Then, around 8000 BC, the Aquahho started living on the surface, settling in the region we now call the Middle East. The two types of humans each developed independently, but apparently, they weren’t very friendly towards each other. Gradually, these two groups started warring with each other, and the Aquahho were struggling to figure out how to bring them under control.
[50] By the way, the mothership the Aquahho had been riding was brought down to the surface, but it was so huge it looked like a mountain or something. Even by 7000 BC, the conflict between the two human types hadn’t ended, so the Aquahho began intervening. Originally, they just wanted to stop the fighting and get the Mars restoration project started quickly, but as they got involved, the Aquahho themselves split into two factions. By around 6000 BC, the situation had become one where the two types of humans fought wars backed by different Aquahho factions. By this time, both human types had actually developed to the point where they could draw a complete map of the Earth and understand chemical reactions.
- [52] Watching you. I’m Aquahho, btw.
- [53] Are they the kind of folks mentioned in conspiracy theories?
- [55] Truly intriguing.
[54] Hearing all this, I was getting really confused and feeling tired. Michael Moore noticed and said, “You should probably go back and sleep soon.” Toshiaki Karasawa added something like, “It’s kinda weird saying this after telling you so much, but it’s not really good for you to come here often.” I asked, “Am I the first Earthling to come here?” He replied, “People from Earth have been coming here now and then for a while.” So, for that day, the Michael Moores took me back to my room, and I returned.
[56] As soon as I woke up, I started searching online for any traces of such stories, but while some existed, they all felt dubious. However, I had decided to go back to that paint space again, so I prepared some questions. I decided to ask about things that personally intrigued me: the Nazca Lines, the Maya civilization, and the pyramids. But after that, I couldn’t get back to the paint space for quite a while, probably about half a year.
- [58] Sumerians sound kinda like that. Living in the sky and coming down occasionally. Like those things you often see in large Western paintings.
- [59] This is incredibly interesting.
- [60] Tell us more.
[61] Just when I started thinking I couldn’t go back there anymore, one day, while sleeping normally, I suddenly found myself in the paint space again. It had been a while, so my fear returned a little. The place felt different from where I’d been before, so I pictured Earth in my mind and was drawn towards it. And there was someone there, but it was a middle-aged woman with a face I’d never seen before, just wandering around. I cautiously approached her, and she seemed a bit surprised too, asking, “You’re an Earthling, right?” I vaguely thought that maybe Earthlings saw each other’s actual appearance, and then the woman laughed and said, “I’m off to another Earth now,” before suddenly disappearing somewhere. After floating around for a bit, someone called out, “Hey!” I looked over, and it was the Michael Moore guy in the Aloha shirt. “It’s been a while,” I said. “You came back again?!” he said angrily. “This is my third time!” I replied. He looked exasperated and said something like, “You’ll stick out like a sore thumb if you talk about this place in your daily life,” which I found kind of funny.
- [62] Tell me how to get there. I wanna hear the Aquahho story.
- [63] I wanna ascend too.
- [64] I wanna go too. Though I guess it’s not easy.
[69] I told Aloha Moore, “I met some of your buddies too.” After a short pause, he said, “Seems like it.” When I asked, “Are they your friends?” he replied, “You guys have a strong concept of the individual, so you might not understand, but we have a collective self and an individual self. I asked my collective self.” I didn’t really get it. When I said, “I have lots of questions!” he told me to first listen to the continuation of the previous story, and then he’d answer. Apparently, the war after the Aquahho intervention escalated rapidly, deploying incredible weapons that surpassed even current human technology. Furthermore, it became a global war, involving the entire Earth. Even Aquahho and humans who hadn’t been involved in the war initially were forced to participate. Around this time, the Aquahho were divided into factions based in what is now the Middle East (Israel, Iraq, India area) and those based in Africa. The war gradually turned in favor of the Middle Eastern side. This made sense because their original mothership was located around present-day Israel, making technological innovation easier for them.
[74] Eventually, the Middle Eastern side apparently gave nuclear weapons (also Sun technology) to their human allies, who started using them extensively. The African side realized this was getting really bad and decided using nukes wasn’t good, so they started using disaster weapons instead. However, these disaster weapons gradually became uncontrollable, leading to another “what do we do now?” situation. As things progressed, their methods of warfare shifted. Instead of just giving weapons to humans and making them fight, the Aquahho themselves increasingly joined the battlefield. I found out later by searching online, but apparently, there’s an Indian epic that depicts something like this. Anyway, as a result of this war with unrestricted use of nukes and disaster weapons, the African side was pushed back and almost completely wiped out.
- [75] The Arrow of Agni?
- [76] Is this about the destruction of Mohenjo-daro and Harappa described in the Mahabharata? They say evidence of nuclear war has been found. Mohenjo-daro, the ancient city of the Indus Valley Civilization, is a vast site covering 5 sq km, but only about a quarter has been excavated. 46 skeletal remains found there showed signs of sudden death. 9 of them had traces of being heated to high temperatures. Also, researchers who identified the time and place of battle based on the Ramayana description dated the conflict between 2030 BC and 1930 BC using carbon-14 analysis, but there’s about a 400-year discrepancy at Mohenjo-daro. The discrepancy might be due to radiation effects, but it’s unclear. (Omitted) Such widespread melting and vitrification of sand has not been found naturally; similar landscapes are currently only found at surface nuclear test sites (deserts). – From Wiki – Ancient Nuclear War Theory – Mohenjo-daro Ruins section. Related: Mohenjo-daro. Related: Traces of Ancient Nuclear War Around the World – Did Humanity Perish Before? Mohenjodaro_Sindh
- [77] The Middle East and Africa are close, right?
- [78] Sun technology… Current nuclear tech uses fission for energy, while the sun uses fusion, right?
- [79] There are three huge pyramids in the same locations on Mars, Earth, and the Moon. Maybe the pyramids are spaceships? Orion Mystery.
- [80] Heard the theory that Egyptian civilization originated from Mars too.
- [82] I always thought souls weren’t confined to just this dimension but existed across multiple dimensions. This story is interesting.
- [81] Bumping because I want to read more.
[83] Thus, the African side, in their dire state, apparently used one last disaster weapon made with Sun technology that could explosively increase water? (He explained the mechanism, but my brain wasn’t good enough, and I just stared blankly and tuned it out). They used it. The Middle Eastern Aquahho became the only Aquahho left on Earth, and the humans allied with them began hunting down the remnants of the other human type worldwide. However, these Aquahho apparently didn’t realize the African side had activated the flood weapon. By around 5000 BC, the Aquahho finally noticed the weapon’s existence.

- [84] Maybe Noah’s Ark was because that flood weapon was activated? Noah’s Ark actually existed!
[85] By then, the surface was in a terrible state, like “Seriously, mega-tsunamis everywhere!” The habitable area for not just humans but all terrestrial life had shrunk drastically. Despite this, the Aquahho apparently just went back up to their mothership in the sky. At this point, suspecting something, I mentioned the story of Noah’s Ark. He laughed and said, “Sure, they probably took a few surface creatures aboard, but Earth has a lot of water, so massive floods have happened many times in the past. It wasn’t anything special.”
- [86] Seems like there’d be Aquahho-human hybrids.
- [88] Would be interesting to make a game based on this.
[89] While these Aquahho were up in the sky wondering what to do, the Aquahho group that had taken the giants came back to Earth. Using technology more advanced than the old Aquahho’s Martian tech, they retrieved the flood weapon and stopped the flood. The giant-escorting group then apparently told the Earth Aquahho to take responsibility for messing up the planet and left them behind, departing again. After that, until around 4000 BC, the Aquahho didn’t descend to the surface. However, they were apparently educating the Earthlings they had taken aboard their mothership. Teaching humans, who had incredibly short lifespans from the Aquahho perspective, was apparently very difficult.
- [90] Has similarities to Maya civilization too.
- [92] Aquahho = Gods from mythology?
- [93] Interesting.
- [95] Hurry up and establish anti-aging technology.
[96] Despite repeating life cycles and occasionally overpopulating even within the ship, humanity managed to preserve its species and pass down knowledge to descendants. Seeing this, the Aquahho thought, “If we send these guys down to the surface and let them spread technology, humanity will advance rapidly, and the Mars restoration plan will speed up.” So, they decided to send these humans down to the surface. The humans who had survived the apocalypse on the ground during this time were trying to somehow revive the mostly lost technology left over from the floods and disaster weapons. However, since the technology was extremely advanced, much of it was based on imitation, but they still managed to cultivate skills in agriculture and construction. According to Aloha guy, this was thanks to the Aquahho DNA.
- [97] The Aquahho mothership must be called Eden.
- [98] So, it’s the origin of things like cooking whose development is unclear?
- [99] Ooparts like the Crystal Skulls might be Aquahho artifacts.
- [101] If what the Aquahho did back then remains in myths and ooparts, it mostly makes sense.
- [100] Humans, or souls, should originally have the power to handle things beyond three dimensions. Feels like we’re restricted. I want to know that mystery.
- [102] Very interesting. I wanna get abducted by a UFO too.
[104] In 4000 BC, the humans from the mothership descended to the surface. At that time, the Aquahho gave them knowledge but hardly any tools. They had learned their lesson from letting humans use nukes before. So, the humans who came down spread that technology and knowledge to the humans who had survived on the surface. Researching later, I thought maybe these people who descended were the Sumerians. And this led to the rise of Mesopotamian civilization. However, among the humans who had remained on Earth, some knew through oral traditions that the Aquahho had fled to the sky when they were in dire straits due to the flood. These people later temporarily conquered the Sumerians. Maybe these were the Akkadians.
Sumerians: In ancient times, the southern part of Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq) was called Babylonia, and its southern half was “Sumer.” The urban civilization that arose in Sumer is considered the world’s oldest, and the Sumerians were central to it. Around 9000 BC, people migrated here from elsewhere and began farming. Around 3500 BC, they invented cuneiform, the oldest known writing system. They called themselves the “mixed ones” and believed they were created by a group of gods called the “Anunnaki.” It’s also said they believed the “Anunnaki came to Earth from another star to mine gold.” Some “ancient astronaut theory” proponents interpret Sumerian mythology as the Anunnaki needing laborers for gold mining, so they created the Sumerians through genetic manipulation. – Adapted from GIGAZINE: 10 Mysteries in Human History Suggesting Alien Involvement. Related: The Mysterious Sumerians! Origins of Mesopotamian Civilization. Sumer.
[105] Aloha Moore said that was the end of the story. The first thing that came to mind was that Neanderthals hadn’t been mentioned, so I asked what they were. The answer I got was quite interesting, and I still remember it pretty clearly. Summarized, it was: “They’re the same species as you. If you consider people with what you call Down syndrome to be the same species, then yes.” So maybe Neanderthals weren’t a different race, just the same species with DNA abnormalities?
- [108] They say the Anunnaki gave civilization to the Sumerians. Aquahho = Anunnaki?
- [109] Apparently, Sumerians called themselves the “mixed ones.”
[110] Then I asked where the Aquahho went. He said that even after sending the Sumerians down, they kept meddling with Earth occasionally. They apparently got really friendly with what we call the Maya civilization and took quite a number of them onto their mothership (lol). However, as space exploration began, or rather, as interest in space grew, the Aquahho stopped contacting humanity. Recently, they temporarily left Earth again to join up with the group that took the giants, and they’re preparing various things.
- [113] I saw UFOs frequently before and after the big earthquake. Could they have been them?
- [115] This is incredibly intriguing.
[120] From here, I started asking the questions I had prepared. Aloha Moore answered all of them. I took notes immediately after waking up, so I should be able to write this more accurately than what I’ve written so far. First, about the Nazca Lines. These were created by direct descendants of the Sumerians to teach drafting and the concept of similarity. At that time, there was apparently a kind of playful song, or rather, a game where they traced the lines while reciting mathematical concepts, which seems to have been passed down as a ritual among their descendants in that region. To check the ground drawings, they used a now-lost technology to build handmade hot air balloons (supposedly an incredibly high level of technology), viewed the lines from the sky, and showed drawings they held that matched, teaching what similarity was. The Aquahho had almost nothing to do with it.
- [122] Interesting.
[127] Next, about the Maya civilization. The Maya were apparently extremely proud people. Even when the Sumerian descendants brought techniques like animal husbandry, metal tools, and the wheel, they acknowledged them but chose not to use them, favoring human power above all. However, they were incredibly intelligent and devised their own construction methods and such. The Aquahho thought the Maya might strongly exhibit Aquahho DNA traits, so they taught them mathematics. The Maya then discovered zero, perfectly calculated celestial movements, and achieved other astonishing feats. The Aquahho grew fond of the Maya and shared methods of celestial observation unknown to humanity today. Then they said, “Let’s go to space!” and took the Maya who wanted to go, intending to make them a second group of Sumerians. However, after most of the brilliant Maya left, the remaining Maya civilization suffered from famine, economic collapse, and eventually got caught up in invasion wars, leading to its demise.
- [131] Giant bones have been unearthed…
- [132] Lizard-faced statues have been found in Sumerian civilization too.
- [133] So the Maya civilization is involved after all.
- [134] The theory of evolution is suspicious because no fossils of giraffes with medium-length necks have been found. I’ve also seen stories on occult forums about aliens teaching that there was alien intervention in DNA.
[137] About the Egyptian pyramids. The Aquahho were apparently surprised, even a bit wary, about these. They seemed to have been built around 2500 BC, but it wasn’t the Aquahho or humans; they suspected input from different aliens. The significance of the pyramids isn’t just in their final form but in the construction process itself, which served as a means to teach various things. The Maya structures built with Aquahho help apparently had the same purpose.
[141] Besides the questions I had prepared, I asked various other things too. I’ll write those down as well. But for now, I need to take a bath.
- [142] Bumping.
- [146] Caught up. Bump.
- [148] Bump.
- [149] There are many theories about the Nazca lines, but I always thought they were just sophisticated graffiti, so this explanation kinda clicks.
- [152] Wow. Kinda makes being bound to 3 dimensions feel stupid.
- [158] Will the brilliant Maya come back? If they intended to make them a second group of Sumerians.
- [162] Oh yeah, Hopi legends mention white brothers who parted on the day of creation. Maybe it’s them?
- [165] Interesting. Bump.
[169] Sorry for the delay. I’ll add a tripcode. Anyway, that’s all I heard that day before being sent back. The very next day, or maybe really soon after, I tried going to the paint space again. But this time, as I was just drifting around like usual, my high school math teacher was there. I wondered, “Which is it? Is this the real teacher, or a Moore-like perception?” As I watched, they noticed me and started talking. It turned out they were from a place completely different from our solar system in terms of dimensions, rules, etc. Talking with them, I learned their species apparently doesn’t live on planets or anything like that; they’re like gas-like life forms drifting in space, with no concept of individuality, so talking to Earth life forms feels incredibly strange to them. While I was chatting with this teacher for a bit, Aloha Moore showed up.
- [170] A hive mind?
- [175] The brain is the universe, right? And time doesn’t really flow, etc.
[177] I asked Aloha Moore, “Can you guys tell immediately when an Earth life form comes here?” He replied, “If I consciously check, I might know if someone’s here, but this time it was just coincidence.” The teacher talked with Aloha Moore for a while (maybe these two exist in the same dimension?) and then disappeared somewhere. Anyway, I started asking questions again. First, the fundamental question: what is this paint space? According to Aloha Moore, it’s the same universe as the one where I live my daily life (when I’m not channeling here), but governed by different rules of size, distance, and time. I didn’t quite get it, so I asked, “Isn’t that just something completely different then?” He explained, “There might be many derivatives like a1, a2, a3… but they are all part of the same universe, ‘a’.” So, this paint space is “a universe with different rules than the one you normally see.”

- [180] Want to hear more.
- [181] Multilayered world. At one condensed, pluralistic point, a completely stopped state, a slightly moving state, a normally moving state… all exist overlapping. That paint world is probably observing a state that’s moving even more than the normal state.
[182] I asked why I could come to this ruleset’s universe. He said, “There should be a version of you suited to these rules here, but it’s strange that you, from your dimension’s perspective, are coming here, ignoring that.” I figured that forcing a 3D perspective onto that universe probably resulted in the paint space view. I asked about the space of light I ended up in initially. He seemed a bit troubled, saying it was difficult to explain to a life form from Earth’s dimension. Simply put, it’s “a space that doesn’t belong to any of the rules of the many ‘a’ universes (a1, a2, a3…), but is still part of the same universe.”
- [183] I often feel like multiple dimensions exist in the same space, and humans can only see a part of it. Wondering if OP’s story has hints.
- [184] Does that mean copies of us are over there? Or maybe it’s more correct to say they are the originals?
- [187] >>184 Aren’t they all originals?
- [188] >>184 I think it’s different aspects of the same thing. Because it has an incredibly long past, it has complex effects on the present, making it difficult to understand immediately.
- [186] Sometimes I think the other world is consciousness, and we’re game characters.
- [190] >>1 Just like you perceive that space as a paint space (though it’s not really) or aliens as Moore, I think humans perceive this current world through filters like common sense, preconceptions, etc. I think about how to overcome that daily but don’t know how. Maybe things are just as they are right now.
[191] Next, I asked about the UFOs frequently sighted during events like the 3/11 earthquake in Japan, the usual sightings around Mexico, or near New York during 9/11 – were those different from the Aquahho? He said there are broadly three possibilities for such sightings: “aliens,” “people living on the same planet in a different dimension,” and “secret vehicles from that planet.” The first case is apparently rare for planets like Earth that developed under the management of beings like the Aquahho. In that scenario, they could be aliens crossing dimensions. The second case could be parallel world travel, time travel, or basically devices made to artificially achieve such things. The Sun apparently possesses this technology, allowing its activity across multiple overlapping dimensions. There’s also the possibility that images from other dimensions are just coincidentally reflected. The most realistic possibility for Earth is the third one. Humans who inherited Sumerian knowledge, meaning Aquahho knowledge, might have tried to recreate it. He told me, “Don’t just look for UFOs appearing during disasters; check if disasters happen after UFOs appear.” I haven’t bothered to check yet, but I wonder.
- [192] >>191 Saw UFOs frequently starting 2 months before the earthquake, so early in the year of 3/11. Think sightings actually decreased after the earthquake.
[201] >>192 Maybe it really is some country’s disaster weapon. >>195, 197 Do it at your own risk. First, learn channeling. If you search online, you’ll find tons of incredibly shady stuff, so you’ll probably get disillusioned. Briefly, my method: For 30 minutes beforehand, don’t look at smartphones or anything stimulating to the eyes. Set the room light to nightlight mode. Spend 30 minutes just chilling. Then, get your mind into a neutral state, like meditation. This is the hardest part, so practice hard. Lie down, look at the nightlight on the ceiling with your eyes half-closed while meditating. After a ringing in your ears, you might feel a floating sensation from your butt to your chest. If you get sleep paralysis here, it’ll turn into astral projection, which can be fun in its own way. Once the floating sensation comes, just go with the flow. Watch in terror as the walls of your room turn into a jumbled mess of colors. >>196 Maybe they were taken by the Aquahho mid-construction.
[194] I asked a lot more questions, but I’ve forgotten quite a bit or can’t recall it. I went to the paint space one more time after this, but that time, an alien from another galaxy appeared in the form of Ayana Taketatsu. I got really excited, and even though Ayanyan was trying hard to tell me about her galaxy, I just kept ignoring her and saying “Whoa, awesome!” to Moore D (a type I hadn’t met before). That was probably about half a year ago now. I haven’t been able to get back to the paint space since.
[202] Sorry for ignoring questions while writing, but I’m done for now, so I can answer questions slowly.
- [195] Please tell me how.
- [197] I want to try channeling. If you’re willing, please tell me your method. It’s okay if you don’t want to.
- [205] Is channeling different from >>201?
[210] >>205 No, I consider the meditation stage of this to be channeling. Sorry, I explained that poorly. >>204 That’s probably something even the Moores wouldn’t know (lol). It’s just that I happen to link easily with Moore, Karasawa, etc., but apparently, there are many more amazing beings there. >>206 Ah, I did ask about the Voynich manuscript when I asked about UFOs and stuff. Apparently, it’s rare, but sometimes things can physically move from universe a1 to a2 without any artificial means. When I mentioned the Voynich manuscript, he said, “Something from your universe has probably moved to the universe where the Voynich manuscript was created and is causing confusion there too.”
- [214] >>210 I see.
- [209] >>201 Thanks. I’ll try my best. Good thing I meditate daily (lol) But I’ve never experienced sleep paralysis or anything, wonder if I can do it.
[211] >>209 Well, it’s not something you have to do super seriously (lol). I only managed it when I was getting bored of trying. >>208 Keep your eyes half-open so the light bulb looks fuzzy. The reason I look at the nightlight is to help neutralize my mind by focusing my distracting mental clutter onto the act of looking at the light.
- [218] >>211 I see, that does seem better than closing my eyes to prevent falling asleep. I meditate quite often too, but I even fall asleep sitting in a chair. Sometimes my body feels numb like sleep paralysis, but I can still move if I try, or I feel like I’m spinning, but I’ve never had anything like astral projection. Haven’t succeeded in meditation, lucid dreaming, or astral projection even once (lol). Sigh…
[220] >>218 Well, if you don’t try too hard, you might just slip into it unexpectedly.
- [196] Starting to think the end of the Mayan calendar might represent something.
[203] >>198 If I manage to go back, I’ll try asking about that stuff.
- [198] In dreams, you naturally experience the 4th dimension. Being able to understand that dimension means you might be looking down from an even higher dimension. I want >>1 to ask why humans are bound to this dimensional perspective and how to break free. But asking that might make them consider you a truly dangerous person over there.
- [200] There’s a theory that human souls fought with beings from higher dimensions in the past and are bound to this dimension as punishment. Being told “You shouldn’t be here” might stem from that past. Listening to 1’s story, many things link up.
- [204] Also, the meaning of existence for the Great Will or similar entities, and the meaning of existence for living beings.
- [206] If you go back, please ask: “Do Aloha Moore and his kind ever visit our world for fun?” and “Do they know any clues about the Voynich manuscript?”
- [215] >>206 I see, so Voynich is text from another dimension. Maybe it’s just the Latin of some other universe.
- [207] Even if it’s delusion, it’s consistent and persuasive. It was interesting. Please ask the Moore aliens about the origin and end of the universe.
[212] >>207 Whether they’d tell me about the end of the universe… They seemed reluctant to talk much even about the space of light.
- [208] Meditating while looking at a nightlight means keeping your eyes open? Staring at a light bulb seems bad for your eyes, especially since mine’s LED.
- [216] Besides the paint world, have you seen or noticed anything else?
[219] >>216 When I return to Earth, I always fly straight to my room (imagine Google Earth zooming in on a destination). During that flight, I’ve sometimes seen other people flying around. The paint space basically looks like I’m wearing glasses with lenses smeared with jumbled paint, which feels gross, so I didn’t have much capacity to look around carefully.
- [222] >>219 Wow. You’re seeing interesting things. I think when someone from this dimension puts half a foot into that one, they interpret it using this dimension’s decoding method, which is why it looks jumbled. I’ve felt the inter-dimensional space a little bit myself, but sometimes I see it, sometimes I don’t.
[223] >>222 Is there some trick to it? I only seem to go there when I’m zoning out, not thinking about anything.
- [227] >>223 I think it’s fundamentally a dream. The mind or consciousness separates from the body, which is deeply tied to this dimension. While sleeping, the mind is somewhat detached from this dimension. People then use their strongest sense in that state (hearing, sight, etc.) to perceive and remember upon waking. Those less adept wake up without remembering. OP, your mind’s perceptual power must be strong. Training likely played a big part too. Since it’s about thinking and doing things in the subconscious part of this primary physical world, you’re probably ‘thinking’ from the paint world’s perspective.
[228] >>227 Whoa, that’s a bit complex for me…
- [229] Sorry, I’ve just been interested in this topic for a long time…
[234] >>229 My brain isn’t that great either… >>230 Who knows? Maybe those guys over there are trying to restore Mars just by themselves. >>231 Oh, I see! Now that you mention it, it does sound high-dimensional. By the way, what was interesting about the paint space was that if I wanted to float, I could drift like in water, but if I decided “I’ll sit here!” or “I’ll lie down here,” I could actually sit or lie down right there.
- [237] >>234 That’s exactly the concept of the 4th dimension as I understand it, I’m surprised.
[239] >>237 I see, so that’s what it is! Maybe the fear I initially felt was some kind of latent sense of unease about another dimension manifesting.
- [240] >>239 Yeah, it’s scary at first. I stepped into the weird world from astral projection, but it took over ten years to be able to think about it calmly. It’s about getting used to it. Also, some worlds are horrifying, so maybe there’s an inherent wariness towards strange dimensions.
[253] >>240 I still casually treat it as an extension of the dream world. I see what I see, remember the conversations there, but so far, nothing has really changed because of it. >>242 This is just my personal theory or guess, but maybe dimensions aren’t hierarchical like floors, but more like a single expansive space where various possibilities shaped by combinations of rules exist. I don’t understand a single micron of what I just wrote either. >>248 Whoa, cool. That sounds cool.
- [242] Meditation is originally said to be for perceiving the Absolute or attaining ultimate wisdom. By intentionally shifting channels, you can connect to the world of the Absolute (the next dimension up). Just as a 2D object can’t exist in this 3D world, maybe we’d cease to exist if we went to the next dimension up? Rereading this, I sound crazy.
- [248] We try to explain the universe with numbers, but numbers don’t actually exist. Numbers are just mental images, interpretations, illusions in the brain.
- [249] 2D objects exist here through a medium. OP didn’t disappear in the other world because they avoided it by using the medium of “dreaming.” Maybe the first old man saying “It’s not a dream” was an attempt to make OP recognize it wasn’t a dream, thus causing them to cease existing (= silencing them)? And if this is OP’s fiction, I’m gonna bury my face in a pillow and flail my legs.
- [247] Since 1 seems asleep, I’ll write how I understand the 4th dimension. Slide a 1D entity onto a 2D plane, it becomes a line. Extrude that line (drawn on a square) into 3D space, it becomes a cube (3D). Now, try to imagine extruding (can’t find the word) that 3D object into 4D space. Most people can’t imagine it. That’s the world we live in as 3D beings.
- [252] How to imagine the 4th dimension: Imagine a tower with a gentle spiral staircase going up. There are countless doors. Opening each door reveals a different room, yet somehow multiple rooms exist in the same space. The 4th dimension is like that. OP said in >>234, “if I wanted to float, I could drift like in water, but if I decided ‘I’ll sit here!’ or ‘I’ll lie down here,’ I could actually sit or lie down right there.” This shows they experienced a space of 4 dimensions or higher.
- [254] Seems like no one’s watching. It’s always been a mystery to me, why humans are in this dimension. It’s baffling.
[255] >>254 I think we’re here because we’re meant to be. Maybe there are things in the world we shouldn’t try to find reasons for.
- [257] >>254 Actually, the story in >>200 is intriguing too! Please tell us more details since we’re on the topic.
- [263] >>257 My story is probably more restrictive and depressing than OP’s. If you don’t like that, just ignore this. Soul-like entities fought in a higher dimension in the past, and the losers were punished by being bound to this dimension. It was a struggle for control over defining reality. The losers had their souls put into dimensional prisons like restraints, while the victors, the so-called ruling class, enjoy greater freedom. Human souls continue to play games within the rules of this dimension: maintaining oneself, preserving life, procreating, etc. Buddha is a prime example of someone who realized this mechanism. He saw through the rules of this world and how limited our perspective is.
[268] >>263 That theory is really interesting. But the idea of attaining enlightenment seems like it could also be dangerous, which is scary.
- [277] >>268 I’m actually quite scared talking about this (lol). Am I afraid of my imagination, or afraid of the rulers? I don’t know either.
- [267] It’s hard to explain. There’s a theory that human souls are implanted with trauma from that war, and trauma from the process of taking human form in this dimension. Fear of incredibly vast things, fear of sea creatures, fear of clusters of bumps (trypophobia), etc. We were implanted with fear because we lost the dimensional war. Furthermore, there’s biological trauma from living as a creature in this dimension, like fear of illness, death, those bumps, etc. You could say overcoming these is a theme for the human soul.
- [269] This idea of a conceptual war, a dimensional war, might itself be a false memory. But the fact that we experience some kind of constraints or trauma is real, so I think it’s one possible lead. This information originates from a certain religion. Quite modern. I call it a religion, but its method was a systematic approach to awakening those memories and the abilities humans supposedly originally possessed. When its techniques were at their peak, practitioners could apparently materialize objects out of thin air. There’s an episode about Buddha where a disciple rejoiced after materializing a pot from empty space. Buddha supposedly smashed the pot and told him not to rejoice over such things. Perhaps falling into that kind of delusion was the problem; that modern religion apparently produced many people who went insane, and the techniques were lost to later generations.
- [270] However, I can’t rule out the possibility that it’s being researched somewhere secretly, precisely to prevent people from going mad by treating it like a game.
[274] >>270 Can’t dismiss this entirely. Humans certainly do have parts of their perception that are strangely rigid.
- [276] >>270 Thanks! Interesting but difficult. Where did this theory come from? If it relates to Buddha, should I look into Buddhist texts? First time hearing this theory, very intriguing and interesting.
- [282] >>276 Should originate from Buddha. It still exists as a religion today but got hijacked and turned into a weird group. There are people trying to preserve the original ideas.
- [279] Tried mimicking staring at the nightlight. Its position started moving around, chills ran down my spine, and an unintentional fear arose, making me open my eyes. Was that something I should not have continued?
[283] >>279 Based on knowledge from astral projection forums, that’s probably a precursor to sleep paralysis. If you maintain that feeling of your consciousness wavering and then twist your body like WHOOSH!! you’ll succeed in projecting. You can experience a dream world where you can fly freely, so that’s fun in its own way.
- [291] >>283 I see, so it’s the step before astral projection! I have no knowledge, so thanks for explaining. How do you return from astral projection?
[295] >>291 This is something like 98% of astral projection experiencers say: even if you try to stay, you inevitably get pulled back into your body and wake up.
- [306] >>295 I see. Thanks for taking the time!
- [285] Saw something interesting before bed.
[298] Oh yeah, I remembered an interesting thing Toshiaki Karasawa told me. I asked if they had music, and he said something like, “You guys and the Aquahho really love music, huh?” Apparently, music theory is almost identical.
- [297] Want to hear more from 1. Really curious about what happens next.
- [299] They say it’s unknown where human consciousness comes from, so the explanation that it spans multiple dimensions kinda makes sense.
- [303] Deja vu you can’t place might be related to this somehow.
- [314] Is this the end? Thanks for your hard work.
- [308] Dreams, right? Sometimes their content just can’t be explained away as combinations of waking experiences/information or just imagination. Like truly not understanding something in a dream, asking, getting an answer, and going “Whoa~!” Or experiencing strange worlds even as an adult. Can only think of it as links to other dimensions. Or rather, it’s interesting, so I want it to be true.